Dragon Ball DAIMA
Dragon Ball Daimamay be officially considered a canyon installment ofDragon Ballby Toei , but there are a few persistence issues that give fans reason to break . IfDaimais to be canon toSuper , thenDragon Ball Superwill have to piece up the slack and help excuse these continuity problem away for the two serial to coexist in one canyon timeline .
Daima ’s persistence problems roam from being so small as to be inconsequential , to being massive problems with reconcile the canon . Each error thatDaimamade is unique in how it needs to be turn to , and there are some options for how best to deal with them . Those that can be ignored might be effective off going unaddressed , but the major problems are simply too crowing to pretend they do n’t exist . Here are 7 ofDragon Ball Daima ’s bad fault , and some ideas about how to potentially touch on them .
7Piccolo Can’t Speak Namekian
Dragon Ball Daima, episode #11
InDaima , Piccolo states that he can no longer speak Namekian , due to having been on Earth for too long , forcing the party to bear Neva ’s offer if they want to make a indirect request on the Demon Realm ’s Dragon Balls . However , Piccolo speaks Namekian in the final arc of the originalDragon Ballwhen blab to Kami , indicating that he could speak Namekian when he was untested . There ’s also the fact that Piccolo fused with Kami , who emphatically screw Namekian quite well , and should at least hold Kami ’s noesis of the nomenclature .
One popular buff theory that cropped up after this episode aired was that Piccolo lied about not sleep with Namekian ; he did this so as to give Neva a rationality for coming along , allowing him to keep an eye on the older Namekian , who had already act against them ( albeit under Gomah ’s orders ) . It ’s the kind of caution that Piccolo would display , and could easily be turn to by having Piccolo verbalise Namekian inSuper . If anyone questions him on his ability to speak it , then Piccolo could admit that he previously lied to Neva .
6Shenron’s “Regular” Wish Deal
Dragon Ball Daima, episode #2
In the 2nd episode ofDaima , Gomah comes to Earth with Neva , destine to use the Earth ’s Dragon Balls to make his wish against Goku and friend . However , or else of granting three wishes , as has become the norm , Shenron tells them that three wish is a bonus for " fixture , " and that Gomah will be receive only one . Gomah uses his wish to turn Goku and friends into children again , then nobble the now - baby Dende and assume him back to the Demon Realm .
This causes some problems withResurrection F , as in that storyline , the Pilaf Gang get control of the Dragon Balls , only to have them hijacked by Frieza ’s partner in crime to convey him back to life . depend on which version you are find out or reading , Pilaf gets two wishes , while in the manga Frieza ’s collaborator only gets one . This could be remedied by having Pilaf recognize as a " unconstipated " by Shenron , granting him the spare wishes as a effect . Pilaf has sure enough used the Dragon Balls before , as that ’s how the pack turned young again in the first plaza .
5The Demon Realm Dragon Balls
Dragon Ball Daima, episode #4
With the introduction ofthe Demon Realm came a new readiness of Dragon Balls . These were explicitly stated to be the first solidifying of Dragon Balls created , even before the Namekian Dragon Balls , and were made by Neva himself . This , however , has some trouble fitting withDragon Ball Super , which of course introduced the Super Dragon Balls , which were said to be the original set of Dragon Balls from which all others were make . This is especially confusing debate that the Demon Realm predates the universe ofDragon Ball ’s multiverse , where the Super Dragon Balls are situate .
The Super Dragon Balls were said to be create by a dragon god named Zalama in a particular year , suggest they did n’t predate the multiverse but were or else added afterwards . What ’s left equivocal is whether Neva made the Dragon Balls before the multiverse was created , or after . It could be that Neva was plainly the first Namekian to create a readiness of Dragon Balls , and that the Super Dragon Balls did indeed come first . In that way , both facts can be true : Neva ’s were the first set created by Namekians , while the Super Dragon Balls were created first by Zalama .
4Namekian Origins Were Retconned
The Namekians have had several origin ; first , Kami and Piccolo were holy and demonic beings , respectively , before it was revealed that they were in reality aliens from the satellite Namek . Piccolo Jr. was thrilled to get together others of his variety , and gained an appreciation of Namekian cultivation through his nuclear fusion with Nail . However , Daimawent a step further , discover that the Namekians were originally from the Demon Realm , and that the planet Namek was n’t their true house , but just a planet very similar to it . The Namekians were thus turned from aliens to demons .
This retcon changes a flock of what fans know about Namekians , but at long last it does n’t completely discredit anything inSuper ; in fact , Superhinted at this truth itself , with Namekian diaspora , like Monaito , in the manga ’s Granolah the Survivor saga . It also explains why Namekians live in other universes besides Universe 7 , as visualize in the Tournament of Power . Making the Demon Realm the true home of the Namekian the great unwashed is well dissimilar , but it does n’t affect ongoing story dumbfound too much . Perhaps more geographic expedition of the Demon Realm ’s connection to the multiverse inSupercould further light up the issue .
3Vegeta Goes Super Saiyan 3
Dragon Ball Daima, episode #12
One transformation which Vegeta had prominently never used was Super Saiyan 3 . While many fans assumed that he was capable of it and only did n’t use it for the same reasons Goku does n’t , there had not been any confirmation that was true until Vegeta transformed inDaima . Vegeta uses Super Saiyan 3 to overwhelm the Tamagamiin the Second Demon World , earning them the Two - Star Demon Realm Dragon Ball . Vegeta use the soma again in the final battle against Gomah , although it ’s far less effective this sentence than it was against the Tamagami .
Since it was never explicitly state that Vegeta could n’t go Super Saiyan 3 , there ’s technically no persistence problem here . InDragon Ball Super , when enquire by Future Trunks about Super Saiyan 3 , Vegeta plainly smirks and shows off a far greater transformation , suggesting that he was open of Super Saiyan 3 , but know it was no longer useful . This view in particular actually gain more good sense afterDaima , but there are definitely some occasions when it seems like Vegeta should ’ve used Super Saiyan 3 ( like when Beerus insulted Bulma ) .
2Kibito Kai is a Big Problem
Dragon Ball Daima, episode #1
InDaima , it ’s prove flop up front thatKibito and Supreme Kai Shin were able to undo their Potara fusionby entering Buu , who creates a sort of gas that causes fusions to follow sunk . This account actually clarified a scene inDragon Ball Z , when Vegito unfuses after move into Buu , but it set up all sort of other problems forDragon Ball Super . It was clearly significant to have Supreme Kai be a separate character forDaima ’s plot to work , so there was little choice but to defuse them , yet the decision to do so causes a huge continuity snarl .
It ’s establish inDragon Ball Superthat Kibito Kai remained in that material body for quite some time , before finally using the Namekian Dragon Balls to like themselves aside again . This does n’t happen until the Tournament of Destroyers inSuper , which means he should be Kibito Kai throughout theBattle of GodsandResurrection Fstorylines . This can only be explained by having Kibito and Shin conflate a second clip , afterDaimaends , which they then undo with the Namekian Dragon Balls . It ’s really a fairly solid job , and would necessitate quite a bit of explain away to resolve .
1Goku’s Super Saiyan 4
Dragon Ball Daima, episode #18
DuringDaima ’s final battle with Gomah , Goku is granted a potential unlock by Neva , not unlike that generate to Gohan by Guru on Namek . This allowsGoku to rise to Super Saiyan 4 for the first time , astonishing his friends and depart Vegeta aghast . Goku utilizes the new conformation to battle against Gomah , but is reverted back to his foot form . After being bid into adult by Glorio , Goku ascends to Super Saiyan 4 again , and proceed to overcome Gomah , even blast a elephantine hole in the border between the Demon Realm ’s earthly concern that will ensure innocent travel between worlds .
The implication seems to be that Super Saiyan 4 is accessible to Goku indefinitely from this point in time forward , raising questions about why he did n’t use it against Beerus . Goku even explicitly state while fight down Beerus that Super Saiyan 3 is the limit of his magnate at the prison term , but we now know that ’s not dependable . After this degree , it can be assumed that Super Saiyan God / Blue were more powerful than Super Saiyan 4 , so Goku used those or else , but there ’s really no explaining away the fight with Beerus . Fans have add up up with account , like the form only works in the Demon Realm , but there ’s no canyon evidence of this .
No matter how you slice it , Goku ’s Super Saiyan 4 antics inDragon Ball Daimarepresent a major persistence error withDragon Ball Super , and there ’s no easy way to justify it .
